hagel's nomination, some of the other things they're going to go up against the president to make sure none of his legislation continues to move forward. will this be setting the stage for more gridlock in washington? does the state of the union have that much power to change? >> depends on what he wants to do. he can gain political advantage on a bunch of these issues. increase the pressure on congress, play what's called the outside game. essentially say you guys are at fault but i don't think he gets, for example, immigration reform that way. he's going to need significant support within the republican party. you have people like senator rubio giving the response tonight who very much want something to get done. so the tone on that will really matter. does he want to get a political advantage, use it as a wedge issue or does he want it to be a legacy, an accomplishment of his administration? you would approach it two different ways depending on what you want to do. >> depending on what the speech says tonight, there are some who says he's going to try to avoid congress all together,